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  Do Other Sheep have Eternal Life Now?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  one of the benefits of justification is eternal life for believers.

  i found an interesting passage from the wt, june 15, 1974 which reads:.

  "it is to the spirit anointed christians who will rule in that kingdom that most of the christian-greek scriptures is directed, including the promise of everlasting life.

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  Lost in the fog

  I remember a trusted elder in a few public talks would emphasise that the Christian Greek Scriptures were written only for the anointed ones with a heavenly hope, and the Hebrew Scriptures were written only for the Jews.

  So other than containing principles and lessons he inferred that the whole Bible was not written for the earthly class but that was why they needed to align themselves with the F&DS to receive spiritual meat in due season.

  Which I guess is why most of Christendom who read the Bible figure that they will be in heaven, whereas the average JW has been told repeatedly that they will not be going to heaven - so they just hope that there will be a place for them to live on the earth, otherwise they are screwed.
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  Final talk of the 2020 'Always Rejoice' Convention

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is part of splane's lecture in the final part of the final day of the 2020 convention.

  now speaking of broadcasting.

  do you think jehovah has been preparing us for something like this pandemic?

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  Lost in the fog

  You just reminded me of the first 4 points of the following article I read recently. Need I say anything more.

  https://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-22301/5-things-psychopaths-say-to-make-you-feel-crazy.html
  
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  The Most High

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. social
  2. current

  saw this on a friend's facebook page.

  of course all the jws were quick to say that it must have been the apostate israelites.

  bbc news - 'cannabis burned during worship' by ancient israeli test.

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  Saw this on a friend's Facebook page. Of course all the JWs were quick to say that it must have been the apostate israelites. But who knows...

  BBC News - 'Cannabis burned during worship' by ancient Israeli test.

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-52847175
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  Why Do Intelligent People Still Believe In The Jehovah’s Witness Religion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i understand it’s a cult.

  but what makes an intelligent person actually believe they have the “truth” as taught by jehovah’s witnesses??

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  I think that it is because the beliefs cater to their innermost desires.
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  November WT study article

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in one of the study articles from the november 2020 edition, is mentioned (free quotation):.

  "don"t get disturbed if your kingdom hall will be sold".

  food on the right time, i asume?.

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  But you do feel sorry for the r&f who gave their time, energy, and finances to build the halls. They were always told that the KHs were part of the goods held in the hands of Jesus (aka the Gov. Body on earth).

  There were real efforts to build KHs in each town - only for them to disappear as congregations were merged. People asked us in the ministry "If you are the one true church why aren't you in every town like the other churches?"

  Soon people will be asking who JWs actually are because no one will see their presence in the community at all!

  As far as letter writing goes what do most people do when unsolicited junk mail is put in the letter box, they toss it out with the rubbish. The only reason for letter writing and cold calling by telephone is so the r&f can report Service Time to the organisation.

  It serves no practical purpose outside of that reason.
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  2020-08-14 Announcement! (as of 2020-08-15)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2 documents.

  2020-08-14 announcement.

  one in english and one in german.. .

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  Lost in the fog

  I see that everyone is clamouring for copy?

  Personallly I would have to ask nye why!?..

  I am out so why would I want you to drag me back. Once gone is gone and the stable door is firmly bolted shut
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  Expectation vs Reality

  by joey jojo in

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  2. experiences

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  just wanted to put this out there for any lurkers.. as someone that grew up during the 70s and 80s, we were promised that we would be in the first picture long ago.

  if you are still on the fence, please let this sink in for a while..

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  I think the Society picks what everyone wishes for and says God's new world will accomplish it.

  People long for good health, a roof over their head, food on the table, no more war, etc.

  My old aunt, born in 1917, would never go to high school because of the imminence of the kingdom rule. I was told the same thing in the 60s and 70s. Children today are warned off university for the same reason. Gullible? Yes. But brainwashed by the "where else could we go" message.
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  White Jesus Statues

  by Lost in the fog in

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  saw this on a friend's page.

  where will this silliness end?

  https://www.themonastery.org/blog/we-should-also-tear-down-statues-of-jesus-activists-say .

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  Lost in the fog

  Saw this on a friend's page. Where will this silliness end?

  https://www.themonastery.org/blog/we-should-also-tear-down-statues-of-jesus-activists-say
  
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  Removing Historic Monuments and Statues - Does the Term "Historical" Make it Right or Wrong?

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after further review and thought, i really don't see how removing a monument or statue that may be truly offensive to a large group of people is in some way rewriting history.. i think of germany or other parts of europe.

  you don't see swastikas on buildings or statues of hitler or mussolini or other upper level generals in public.

  would it be good for a person (think jewish) to drive around a city and see hitler in a public park, even though it is "historical?

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  Seen on a friend's page. Where will this silliness end.

  https://www.themonastery.org/blog/we-should-also-tear-down-statues-of-jesus-activists-say
  
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  John 5:28,29.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we used to use this scripture to show that there was going to be a future resurrection.

  but recently i got to thinking about it.

  if the apostle paul was right in saying that the righteous on death would be changed in the twinkling of an eye from earthly life to heavenly glory why would there be a future resurrection needed for the righteous?

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  Lost in the fog

  We used to use this Scripture to show that there was going to be a future resurrection. But recently I got to thinking about it.

  If the apostle Paul was right in saying that the righteous on death would be changed in the twinkling of an eye from earthly life to heavenly glory why would there be a future resurrection needed for the righteous?

  JWs would say it was for those who will live on the earth, but did any of the people Jesus said that to believe anything about a resurrection to the earth? Trying to make sense of something I haven't thought about for a long time.

  Any one clarify this for me please.